[ros-dev] Re: [Freedce-devel] pthread_clear_exit_np()
ionucu at videotron.ca
Wed Apr 26 00:44:50 CEST 2006
Can you please stop CCing ROS in these threads?
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> christoph, christoph, why are you trying to insult someone who is
> looking to further the long-term aims and goals of free software,
> by putting people in touch on perceived unrelated projects and
> explaining to them the relevance?
> you have a specific area of expertise (according to your 2005
> ukuug bio) - kernel development.
> i would welcome an opportunity for you to explain why my life,
> which happens to be quite poignantly sad and unfulfilling in
> many ways, has any relevance to the discussion at hand - and,
> also, if you could possibly elaborate on why i am "beeeing an asshole"
> likewise has any relevance.
> also: i would strongly advise you to consider objectively what
> i am trying to do - and forget what you do not know about me
> [you know nothing about me].
> forget that i am involved in this discussion, because it is
> clearly affecting your (and evidently other people's) objective
> freedce is an important and under-recognised project that can
> save literally man-decades of development time currently
> being wasted by key free software projects, and lack of recognition
> for it is also stopping several interoperability projects from even
> you want to know how many incompatible free software
> implementations there are of MSRPC around? i count FOUR,
> all written in c.
> EACH of those projects has had at least two full-time members working on
> them for AT LEAST three years, and each of those projects will require
> those full-time members to continue working on those incompatible and
> fundamentally non-interoperable development environments for another
> three to five years, to make them useful - as development environments,
> rather than to "fill one project's needs".
> [whereas, if one of the fat cat free software "supporting"
> companies would actually get off their backsides and fund
> freedce, it would save everybody several decades worth of money]
> you see - until such time as those non-interoperable MSRPC
> projects are completed, microsoft still dominates the market.
> MSRPC is the key infrastructure which binds everything together in the
> microsoft world: it's what the European Union is trying to get out of
> microsoft in the anti-trust case: information on how they use MSRPC;
> how they do their authentication; the IDL files; specifications on the
> nt domain services; etc. etc.
> you indicated in an earlier email that (please correct me if my
> impressions are wrong) that freedce is archaic and therefore irrelevant.
> nothing could be further from the truth, and your distaste
> for freedce is very short-sighted.
> mark, from ibm: you should be advocating to ibm's free software
> departments to back freedce and to KEEP the employees who worked
> on DCE 3.0 and move them to freedce and MSRPC interoperability.
> get some of that multi-hundred-million-dollar free software
> advertising budget and put a fractional percentage of it
> behind freedce.
> you don't have to _like_ freedce.
> you don't have to like its history.
> you don't have to like that it is me that is advocating its use.
> but don't you _dare_ insult me and think it doesn't have any effect.
> so. i look forward to receiving an apology from you - not
> for my benefit, but because it will mean that you are willing to
> demonstrate to the hundreds of people to whom your message has been
> distributed, and to the thousands of people who will encounter it
> in the future, that you can be trusted to make objective and
> important decisions.
> and that you don't deliberately go out of your way to
> belittle and bully other people.
> if you are unable to apologise, then you demonstrate, to me and
> to others, that you do not deserve any position of responsibility.
> am i making myself clear?
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:22:16PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>luke, please get a life and stop beeing an asshole, thanks.
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