[ros-dev] Regarding moderator status in the Forums.

[Zachary Gorden]

Two reasons.  The first was problems with our CMS and hosting system that
made banning impossible.  That's now been resolved, so we will be handing
out bans in the future.  The other is nute, while managing to piss off a lot
of people, is not guilty of intentional malice.  Incredibly bad judgment
when it comes to dealing with people, yes, but I was highly reluctant to set
a precedent of banning someone for that.  We have in the past used other
methods to slap down people, but nute's actually never done anything that
would allow us to use those methods to get him to behave short of a complete
ban.  That policy is currently undergoing some rethinking, but I've been too
busy this past week to finish the discussion with Aleksey and the other
developers.  Ged has also been working out a more formalized system for
deciding whether to give someone the boot, and that will hopefully present
an actual punishment that moderators can use.  But again, real life time
pressures means I really haven't had the opportunity to get everything
through to the satisfaction of the rest of the devs.  Hopefully that will
change by the coming weekend.  Anyway, this really should be in the -web ML.

Z98

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM, chris harney <christopher57 at optusnet.com.au
> wrote:

> I know its none of my business but why isn't nute banned for the ReactOS
> forums? ( or from the whole bloody planet! lol )
> he adds nothing to the forums or the ReactOS project.
> betaluva
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Reimer" <daniel.reimer at stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de>
> To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev at reactos.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:02 PM
> Subject: [ros-dev] Regarding moderator status in the Forums.
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > as already said in the #reactos-dev IRC Chat yesterday I, too, think Z98
> > is right
> > (http://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7634&start=75#p67090),
> > this is not how a real mod has to behave. But this criticism counts for
> > him, me and all others in the privileged teams IMO! I know that some of
> > my behavior is more childish than anything else you could call useful
> > and professional, but I ask you, what ways to tidy the forums up, do I
> > have, except gallows humor and sarcasm? Lets explain what evilness I did
> > this time again. Every day on my way to university I sit in the train,
> > start Opera Mini on my Mobile and run through the forums to do my job
> > and in recent times more an more posts with harmful and destructive
> > meaning occur. Most are from our well known troll-friend nute, but there
> > are other flaws right now, too. For example the newly registered
> > members, who write one post with SPAM in their signature and hope that
> > noone of the Mods recognizes it, but this is another story. OK, back to
> > the main story. I looked trough his "When will Version 0.3.blablubb
> > finally be done you lame, useless dumbasses of so called Devs"-post,
> > which I already moved to Off Topic because his unintentional negative
> > influence does not belong to the General Forums IMO. Well, I know the
> > very last warning spoken by Z98 against me in the very same Thread and
> > realized that the same behavior he accused from both sides reoccurs
> > after just two days. Flaming and Bashing from both sides again... Well,
> > I lock topics and get bashed, I warn ppl and get bashed, I rename a
> > thread which has nothing to do with any Version 0.4.11 talk and more is
> > meant as a battleaxe against the forum and the project and get bashed
> > too, so I decided to do nothing except a good amount of sarcasm and
> > properly renamed the Thread to "nute's private playground" which it was
> > anyway at that time. Well, I had nothing to loose. All my steps would
> > have resulted in bashing anyway, so I chose the funniest path. Some
> > subjects in the forums play with us and noone cares. They spread crap
> > about us, which could even harm our image and noone cares! And if I dare
> > to try to sentence disciplinary actions, I get kicked from above. Well,
> > why should I behave like a real mod pretending to be one? I have lost
> > all power over the forums, because our own hierarchy fights against me.
> > I have as much power in there like all others users, because most of my
> > steps and actions are being reverted or openly criticised anyway. God
> > its fucking frustrating to have no ways to moderate the forum at all,
> > but being called mod! If we do not finally start to spread some
> > authority in the forums and stop to always see the good person in such
> > harmful subjects without the minimum of aggression needed to be a Mod
> > IMO or giving mods like me ways to do their job without anyone always
> > falling in their back, we can close down the forums immediately anyway.
> > Psychotic trolls like nute and more than enough others need limits,
> > otherwise they dance on our nose as they do right now and a hierarchical
> > system which fights itself is no way to get this done. It did not work
> > in the Weimarer Republik and won't work for us, too.
> >
> > OK this had to be said, now kick me, degrade me, whatever you think is
> > best, but please finally do it once and for all, please. Only the best
> > for Project counts! I don't care what happens to me as long as we get
> > this problem solved. With or without me as mod. Have fun.
> >
> > Daniel "dreimer" Reimer
> >
> > (still for some last seconds) ReactOS Forum Moderator Team Member
> > ReactOS Build Environment for Windows Coordinator
> >
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