[ros-general] Ok guys...

[Jeff Smith]

I agree with most of the topic, and the things I disagree on are that I
myself find web intergration to be a powerful toom in Windows (tho at time
it's is just another security hole)  if you get that feature removed,
atleast make it an easily installibale addin for the user, so that altho it
stilll poses a potential security hole, thoses isues can be dealt with as a
hole is found. and the User can have a ReactOS expieriance that more
closesly resembles Windows.

other then that, I agree make it resemble windows as closesly as possible...
mimic the user interface if posible...  personally I'd like to see it so
real, that if it wasn't for the logo's, it would appear to be Windows so
that the user  doesn't get into thinking he's going to have to learn a new
operating system,  that he/she would be comfortable in knowing that
everything will work the same in ReactOS as it does in Windows.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Campbell" <eek2121 at comcast.net>
To: <ros-general at reactos.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 2:01 AM
Subject: [ros-general] Ok guys...


> Ok, after my slight anger on IRC, i've decided to write a constructive
> email and post it here.  Please note this is my opinion, though others
> may agree with me.
>
> First of all, Martin, let me say i have the utmost respect for you and
> your work.
>
> However, it has come to my attention that the explorer clone is starting
> to become a mess.  It has too many 'features' built in.  The compaints i
> have are:
>
> 1)  Too many 'ways' to browse a users computer.  You have all those
> buttons at the toolbar, why not just make those features into shell
> extensions or at the very LEAST compiletime options.  Explorer needs
> only 1 way to browse directories/files.  (Which should be whichever way
> that closely resembles microsoft's windows, and by all means winefile
> and explorer should be seperate applications.)  Among the features that
> need to go are:  The web support, Registry browser, NT Object File
> System or whatever the hell it's called, The 'shell browser' or whatever
> it is, The little bar above the Status bar should go.  The Interface
> shouldn't be MDI, as microsoft's is not.
> 2)  The toolbar has nothing useful.  The windows explorer toolbar has
> back, forward, and up buttons for example, to browse the users
> computer.  Our explorer has none of these.
> 3)  The web support needs to go.  I don't know what all was done, but
> web support causes alot of potential vulnerabilities.  Just look at
> microsoft's windows, and even IF it didn't, loading IE/mozilla every
> time explorer starts is a WASTE.
>
> Normally i'd stand back, work on my own explorer clone, but this IS
> ReactOS, our goal is to clone windows, we need to keep our UI as
> consistent as possible with microsoft's.  If you sit down a user in
> front of our current explorer, he/she would be most definitely lost.
> While i would  say hide the features, they'd still be there, increasing
> application size, code complexity, memory requirements, dependencies,
> and slowing the app down, and this isn't an ideal solution.
>
> Solution:  I really think we should clone the Windows NT 4.0 explorer,
> with quicklaunch, but nothing more.  Make everything else addins or
> compiletime options.  The interface really should be more similar to the
> windows version of explorer, with nothing new to confuse users, etc.
> This will make explorer less buggy and faster, it will also consume less
> RAM.  Currently explorer is even slower then microsoft's own explorer.
> Granted it is an alpha version, but still, these 'new features' are
> still getting injected every once and a while, making things even worse,
> when time/energy would be better spent working on shell32 or fixing
> bugs/optimizing explorer and code cleanup.
>
> Don't get me wrong, i think explorer is great, it's a marvelous piece of
> work.  And my opinion is one of many, but keep in mind i'm not speaking
> for the supergeeks here, i'm speaking for the power users and regular
> users, the customer support reps and myself.
>
> Take care, and please don't flame me, martin, or anyone else.
> Richard.
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