[ros-general] Re: ReactOS UI Team - Concept, Plan, and: help wanted

[Richard Campbell]

1)  Well, we should be aiming for a windows 2000 look and feel.  UI 
Enhancements should be a 3rd party addon, not bundled with ROS, or at 
least not the default.  Changing the way a proven UI works is a recipe 
for disaster.

mf wrote:

> Mikko Tikkanen wrote:
>
>> Aye. I'm still in. Just have been a tad busy. I've been watching my
>> mail but that's about it but since I started my school few weeks ago I
>> have more time on my hands. At least when project deadlines aren't
>> pushing too close.
>
>
> Great.
>
>> The school also has new advantages; since I'm studying UI/usability
>> design I could do some actual user testing, with live subjects. I
>> could also get artists involved as the schools also has art teaching.
>
>
> Be careful not to make ReactOS into some kind of guinea pig for
> eccentric design though. One of the most important goals for ReactOS,
> interface-wise, is not requiring any retraining for people switching
> from Windows.
>
> Max Well wrote:
>
>> As you said, there are already two UI designer, so I would like to
>> redesign the setup.
>
> I believe the setup is already being UI-ified. Contact Alex Ionescu for
> details. See also:
> http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Alex_Ionescu/RosGooeySetup
>
> Richard Campbell wrote:
>
>> I don't think i quite understand this...Are you saying we should develop
>> a new UI?  I don't think so. The Windows UI is standard, and several
>> million users KNOW this UI.  Our UI should be kept as close as possible
>> to windows without breaking any laws.
>
> I honestly don't know where you got this idea from, but we will be
> staying close to the Windows feel, as I explained above.
>
> jwalsh at bigpond.net.au wrote:
>
>> Richard is correct.
>> I understand the statement below as a recipe for suicide.
>> If you are having trouble getting skills on the ground now, this will 
>
> make sure you never do.
>
>> Being SLAPP'ed by a multibillion business is no picnic.
>
> What's this, chinese whispering? What exactly did I say we're going to
> do which is going to make msft get interested in SLAPPing us? I'm
> calling for help to improve our UI which currently is somewhere in the
> pre-win95 age.
>
> Martin Fuchs wrote:
>
>> Yes, that's the best way: Write down what you intend to implement
>> exactly on the Wiki or in Bugzilla. I will help in explorer, winefile
>> and ibrowser as far as possible. But my available time is limited.
>> Branching the code is possible, if you want to change explorer
>> completely. But I would prefer to maintain only one code base. The
>> already existing "lean-explorer" branch may be enough.  ;-)
>
> First off, PLEASE reply ONLY in ros-general. My initial mail states:
>
>> Please reply to this mail only on the general list or to me in person
>> (if you're not on the list and only get digests), it is only
>> crossposted in ros-dev to get a wider range of attention.
>
>
> Keeping track of conversation on multiple lists is only confusing. 
> Thanks.
> As for your suggestion, I'd like to say that I personally dislike
> indirect communication like the wiki or bugzilla. Stuff gets done in a
> fraction of the time if you can reach a quick concensus by means of word
> exchange. I don't know why you seem to avoid IRC, but mailing list seems
> alright with me as well. Seeing that you're as "in charge" of the look
> of explorer as you currently are, maybe it would be beneficial if you
> would join the UI Team yourself? Just a suggestion :).
>
> Cheers,
>
> mf.
>
>
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