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[IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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KDE for Windows 4.10 is available. KReactOS would be alternative ReactOS distribution using KDE instead of Windows Explorer as GUI and KDE SC instead of a Windows-like default software.
Window manager: plasma-desktop.exe
Browser: Konqueror
Media Player: Amarok
KReactOS will be able to provide full KDE support unlike Windows because tighter intergration is possible.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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How would this be different from just downloading KDE though RApps? Seems like a lot of extra effort for what can be done in a few clicks.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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Most of the Win32 userland-side APIs will be unnecessary on a KDE-integrated Windows-like OS.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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Not if you want to run Windows apps AND the KDE stuff are Windows apps either, so... NOPE ^^
ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Konata wrote:How would this be different from just downloading KDE though RApps? Seems like a lot of extra effort for what can be done in a few clicks.
Many people not have idea that is KDE, and much less than how to install it. On day maybe reactos will be use by companies (i hope) KDE in rapps will be greatly ignored (happens in the company where I work, people not have idea of how update the antivirus and that we have internet). So the difference between download KDE from rapps and already pre-installed is that the process will be completely transparent to the end user.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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EmuandCo wrote:Not if you want to run Windows apps AND the KDE stuff are Windows apps either, so... NOPE ^^
Not all Win32 APIs are necassary for Qt-based KDE apps. KDE apps' window management and UI calls will silently redirect into modified Qt DLLs which does not use Win32 as UI basis. The non-WM related Win32 calls and core kernel calls will still be available.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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KDE for windows seems slightly dead to me and has been for some time. No changes for two years indicates something...
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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erkinalp wrote:
EmuandCo wrote:Not if you want to run Windows apps AND the KDE stuff are Windows apps either, so... NOPE ^^
Not all Win32 APIs are necassary for Qt-based KDE apps. KDE apps' window management and UI calls will silently redirect into modified Qt DLLs which does not use Win32 as UI basis. The non-WM related Win32 calls and core kernel calls will still be available.
Well... and what about the 12874282674^38 other Windows apps?
ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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They can use ReactOS Core or ReactOS Standard distributions.
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erkinalp wrote:
EmuandCo wrote:Not if you want to run Windows apps AND the KDE stuff are Windows apps either, so... NOPE ^^
Not all Win32 APIs are necassary for Qt-based KDE apps. KDE apps' window management and UI calls will silently redirect into modified Qt DLLs which does not use Win32 as UI basis. The non-WM related Win32 calls and core kernel calls will still be available.
Your proposal can be interpreted in one of two ways due to your wording, both of which have issues. The first way is that you are suggesting the creation of an entirely new graphics engine in place of Win32. Despite the fact that the Win32 subsystem, even with the substantial usage of code from Wine, remains incomplete. So that's a nonstarter right there just due to manpower considerations alone. The second way is that you are suggesting Qt does not require a large subset of the Win32 subsystem to be complete to function. You're going to need to provide proof for that. Qt as a graphics library sits on top of an OSes existing graphics subsystem. It does not supplant it. As such I find it very dubious that Qt could survive without a complete Win32 subsystem.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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I don't want to participate in thread necromancy here, but I'm curious: Are you creating a ROS+KDE distro, or are you asking others to create a ROS+KDE distro for you?
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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It is a long-term project. This is the first call. Approximately 3 years and 100 men worth of work is needed.
No, it is not ROS+KDE put together like you install KDE on Windows. It is going to be KDE and ReactOS tightly integrated, replacing Win32 for Qt and C++ standard library.
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Re: [IDEA]KReactOS:ReactOS distribution with KDE SC

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You know that this necromancy is reason enough for some holidays, do you? LOCKED!
ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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