Reiser4 FS in React0S

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Re: Reiser4 FS in React0S

Post by erkinalp »

ReactOS is a Windows replacement in a sense it aims two things:
  • Be at least compatible with Windows software and hardware (extensions are possible once we have enough manpower) to the extent the replacement is as seamless as possible
  • Either of these:
    • Convert all Windows userbase into ReactOS users
    • Get Microsoft to opensource Windows (under a GPL-compatible license, of course) so that Microsoft and the Windows programmers' community can collaborate for Windows development
Did you think a re-implementation effort would arise if the Windows source code was available to everyone?
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Re: Reiser4 FS in React0S

Post by anthracen »

erkinalp wrote: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:09 pm ReactOS is a Windows replacement in a sense it aims two things:
"is" and "aims", yes, this. it's not the same. at all.
Replacement is an act of replacing something. Or statement of the fact something has been replaced. you are not gonna replace anything.
  • Be at least compatible with Windows software and hardware (extensions are possible once we have enough manpower) to the extent the replacement is as seamless as possible
  • Either of these:
    • Convert all Windows userbase into ReactOS users
    • Get Microsoft to opensource Windows (under a GPL-compatible license, of course) so that Microsoft and the Windows programmers' community can collaborate for Windows development
"Convert all Windows userbase into ReactOS users"

Never will happen. 100+ % it's so obvious that even hard to try to explain. just sit and watch. you'll see how it's not gonna happen. :) Every software project wants userbase. Every useful software project does have it. ReactOS IS a useful software project. and it has and will have its userbase. But never ever will it replace Windows. nor does it need to do so.

"Get Microsoft to opensource Windows (under a GPL-compatible license, of course) so that Microsoft and the Windows programmers' community can collaborate for Windows development"

Never will happen. 100+ % I mean, how one could be so naive? "get" to opensource? Dude, you probably are kidding! well, I'll try to not make fun of this. try another way. look at unix world. AIX, Solaris... Did the existence of linux "get" those vendors to opensource their OSes? No? they adopted linux as well, they exploit it heavily, but they haven't opened anything. ReactOS is not a Windows world's linux yet. because even with an ugly GUI and being lame as hell, linux "just works". and there are even masochists, tryna use it as a desktop OS, so much more - freebie lovers running CentOS as their webservers. :lol: ReactOS isn't at that stage (but I bet it already loads CPU less than linux :lol: when doing its work).

GPL really? "of course"? do you really think that everybody on this planet worships GPL? why do you think your preferences are so undoubted for everyone? all the "developers" all over the world just sit and dream about times when MS GPLs Windows? What for and why? Maybe there are more BSD license dreamers? BSD is way better and is really all about collaboration/sharing and stuff (or broadlier - not caring about the license/commercial things), zero fanatism and religiousness. Or maybe the Windows team at MS is happy enough to work on Windows by its own without somebody's GPL/nose in their business? Or maybe, software developers targetting WinAPI give no sh1t about the license of the OS in question? Why should they? they have their own projects and this is there where their interests lie. They need not the GPL license from the OS in question, they need a well documented and rich API. Guess what, Windows has some to suggest for them.

Much more relevant would be the idea to provide legacy NT versions compatibility for running on oldish hardware. Like hey, do you have old hardware that still works and you miss WinXP/Server 2003? We have something to you! ...Oh, wait, this already IS the real goal of the ReactOS - NT5.2 compatibilty. :) The real goal versus imaginable.
Did you think a re-implementation effort would arise if the Windows source code was available to everyone?
there is a bunch of BSD OSes no matter all their code was always open. people have ambitions, they fight with each other, wanna be better than others ... etc. it's only in the imaginable GNU/world everything needed is GPL. "of course". :lol: This is exactly where you miss the point. You think that only opensourceness is needed and everything is driven by it, whereas, it's not. It's passion driven. Creative work is passion driven.
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Re: Reiser4 FS in React0S

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Did the existence of linux "get" those vendors to opensource their OSes? No?
Yes. UNIX v7 is open-sourced. It has been added to FUZIX codebase.
FUZIX is a port of UNIX for Z80 and 6502 processors.
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Re: Reiser4 FS in React0S

Post by ThFabba »

Enough arguing about semantics. This thread is about ReiserFS.
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