Livecd 56875 dbg setup initialization failed

[kayedee]

@Haos,
Will do and thank you and others for your support.

Can anybody tell me why Rapps is not on the Livecd, as now I am stuck for testing golden apps on my desktop pc that boots to the desktop with the Livecd, as with no USB support yet,and without Rapps, unable to get any apps on the machine to test.

[gonzoMD]

you could edit the iso and add setup packages.

[kayedee]

Yes I could, but the point here is that surely it should be included for the reasons mentioned, what is the point of a livecd with the only present means of downloading anything to the machine is via the internet.
Another reason for interested parties to become uninterested.

[milon]

Can anybody tell me why Rapps is not on the Livecd, as now I am stuck for testing golden apps on my desktop pc that boots to the desktop with the Livecd, as with no USB support yet,and without Rapps, unable to get any apps on the machine to test.

But if you're running LiveCD, how do you plan to install anything you've downloaded? If you have harddisk space that LiveCD ROS can use, why not just use a regular ROS install CD instead?

[kayedee]

@Milon

But if you're running LiveCD, how do you plan to install anything you've downloaded? If you have harddisk space that LiveCD ROS can use, why not just use a regular ROS install CD instead?

Will be installed as Reactos is in RAM, I do not want to risk the desktop PC HDD, it is not a 'spare' machine.

[milon]

Will be installed as Reactos is in RAM, I do not want to risk the desktop PC HDD, it is not a 'spare' machine.

ROS doesn't install in RAM though - it constantly reads off the disc. How exactly will you install an application? I don't think ROS supports a RAM Disk, unless you have some alternate method of interfacing one with ROS. How are you doing that? That's an honest question and not sarcasm. I know little about RAM Disks, but it would be great if we could test ROS with it!

I used to only test LiveCD on my hardware, which always BSOD's. I never tested it in a vm, though, until I saw this thread. A recent LiveCD test BSOD'd in vm. Recent debug installer builds worked just fine in vm. I think there may be an issue specific to LiveCD, though I haven't tested enough to know yet.

Try testing LiveCD 56875 in a virtual machine and report what happens. I'll also do more testing as soon as I have time.

[kayedee]

@Milon
On reading your last post, I was very surprised that the Livecd does not use create a ram disc, I just assumed all livecd operated that way, and that it was reason for producing it, that is to test the os and applications without harm, it turns out it is nothing but a demo.
Oh well will have to wait for some progress on this front.

[milon]

I was very surprised that the Livecd does not use create a ram disc...

You know, I may have jumped the gun on that one. I honestly don't know, and as I said there's very little that I do know about RAM disks. Could someone please confirm/correct what I posted before about ROS not using a RAM Disk?

[kayedee]

@Milon
I will create a new topic on it.

[swight]

I think I am getting a similar situation on my PC using live cd revision 56967 release.ACHI vs IDE Native does not effect issue. it is an Acer AM3400-U2502 upgraded to 8gb of ram(maybe half of it actually detected during regular debug boot) and an extra dvd-rw drive. It also has a mushkin chrono deluxe 240gb solid state drive (SATA III I think).

I will try to retype what I have on my screen from Debug(Screen) as I don't have a serial cable but I think I do have a little additional info.

8B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
"Subsystem:Unknown [1025:8000]
"Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 IRQ 11
"I/O ports at e800 [size=2k]
"Memory at fdfff000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=4k]
"Memory at fdff8000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32k]
"Device is using IRQ 11! ISA Cards using that IRQ may fail!

======= PCI BUS DETECTION COMPLETE =======

PC Compatible Eisa/Isa HAL Detected
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\PCI.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBUHCI.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBCCGP.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBEHCI.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBHUB.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\ACPI.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBOHCI.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\UNIATA.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\BUSLOGIC.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\USBSTOR.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\CDROM.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\DISK.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\RAMDISK.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\NMIDEEBUG.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\CDFS.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\CDFS.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\MUP.SYS
multi(0)disk(0)cdrom(111)\reactos\System32\Drivers\NDIS.SYS
None
[Bus master] [Memory space enable]
[Bus master] [Memory space enable]
[Bus master] [Memory space enable]

[kayedee]

Trunk R57028 cures this problem with the LiveCD.
Probably the updated uniata version sync a few revisions back.
So I downloaded the bootCD version to install on the HDD of my waiting Dell Latitude 110L, went sweet to the second setup stage but am unable to progress as there is no active curser (touchpad), tried a USB mouse and rebooted install with the same result.
Any ideas, or should I report a bug.

[milon]

You should be able to progress with keyboard alone. Use the TAB key to switch between various input fields.

[kayedee]

@milon.
I tried that but also no response.
But thanks for that.

[milon]

@milon.
I tried that but also no response.
But thanks for that.

What stopped you from progressing without a mouse? Was it something in the design or ReactOS, or was it a flaw/bug?

[kayedee]

Unable to progress without user input from mouse or keyboard.