ReactOS´s windows suggestion

[jonaspm]

i come with this suggestion that could sound rare for you:

delete the button:
WHY?!?!?!?

The world is evolving, new options have arised...

the suggestion of removing the "resize" button is to make ReactOS easier to use (WHAT? BUT IT IS ALREADY EASY TO USE!)
i know i know.. but, that button should be unnecessary in tablets, notebooks, or even full desktop computers... WHY?

because you already can: minimize the window, and close it, and that is supplemented by the taskbar... so why that button?
the ReactOS´s mission is to be compatible with Windows, but not "same as" Windows...

the removal of the button in ReactOS should not affect... whY? because we just don´t need it, there is the taskbar, and minimize button...

There are some apps that cant be full-screen, but the window should be full-screen not the entire content...

so what do you say?
-This should help to use ReactOS in small-size monitors
-If ReactOS is used in tablets, the content would be clear and easier to read
-Less code in ReactOS, and not negative impacts

and why not? a button just like Windows 7 "desktop button" in the taskbar could be implemented...

Please comment all you want!

[BrentNewland]

First off, I think that in the future when the ReactOS developers are at the point when they are looking for new features to add, this subforum will be a great source of inspiration. You definitely have an interesting idea.


The easiest way for this to be implemented would probably be the same section that will control your theme/wallpaper/color options. It would be nice to be able to choose to have the buttons on the right or the left, and to choose not to show some of those buttons

P.S. Tool a bit of searching, but I found out That is the "Resize" button. I guess it makes sense.


Personally, I have become a fan of the Windows-7 controls: Drag the title bar down from the top of the screen to resize, move the window to the top of the screen to maximize, grab and shake the window to minimize all the other windows. And of course the desktop peek in the bottom right corner, as well as that spot for the minimize all button.

[Sof_T]

Nice to have more than one way to do things, what one users grasps intuitively another doesn't.

[SomeGuy]

I am getting so tired of people (including Microsoft) second guessing the "right" way to build a GUI.

Hey, here is an idea. Why don't we remove English from whatever OS. And Spanish, and Italian, and Russian, and Japanese, and whatever else and replace it with Esperanto! ONE TRUE LANGUAGE, MUCH SIMPLER!!! FASTER, MORE EFFICIENT, EASIER TO USE! EASIER TO DEVELOP FOR! EASIER TO SUPPORT! COST SAVING EVERYWHERE!

No.

All of these languages evolved and are used for a reason, and nobody is going to change anytime soon. Some people learn multiple languages easily, and that is great for them, but are they enough to make the change for?

It is the exact same thing with "GUI" elements.

The "Restore" button comes from the days before there was any task bar. There were just free floating windows over a blank desktop - possibly a large desktop. So it made sense to put the control buttons on each window. There were a few variations, but the one that became the most popular was:
[system box/close]-----[minimize][maximize/restore]

It works, it works well, it STILL works well, people are familiar with it, it is referenced in countless documentation, it is part of the basic GUI "language", and there is no need to change it.

[mrugiero]

I am getting so tired of people (including Microsoft) second guessing the "right" way to build a GUI.

Hey, here is an idea. Why don't we remove English from whatever OS. And Spanish, and Italian, and Russian, and Japanese, and whatever else and replace it with Esperanto! ONE TRUE LANGUAGE, MUCH SIMPLER!!! FASTER, MORE EFFICIENT, EASIER TO USE! EASIER TO DEVELOP FOR! EASIER TO SUPPORT! COST SAVING EVERYWHERE!

No.

All of these languages evolved and are used for a reason, and nobody is going to change anytime soon. Some people learn multiple languages easily, and that is great for them, but are they enough to make the change for?

It is the exact same thing with "GUI" elements.

The "Restore" button comes from the days before there was any task bar. There were just free floating windows over a blank desktop - possibly a large desktop. So it made sense to put the control buttons on each window. There were a few variations, but the one that became the most popular was:
[system box/close]-----[minimize][maximize/restore]

It works, it works well, it STILL works well, people are familiar with it, it is referenced in countless documentation, it is part of the basic GUI "language", and there is no need to change it.

Despiting I'm against plainly removing it like the OP suggested, I'm all for versatility. If they add a GUI tool to set how they want the title bar to behave, I'll second that, provided the default config is the actual de facto default from nowadays. The same way Esperanto was added to the language options, instead of just removing all the other languages and putting it by force, I'd like to see the feature (already present in most X window managers) to customize it.

[Sof_T]

Despiting I'm against plainly removing it like the OP suggested, I'm all for versatility. If they add a GUI tool to set how they want the title bar to behave, I'll second that, provided the default config is the actual de facto default from nowadays. The same way Esperanto was added to the language options, instead of just removing all the other languages and putting it by force, I'd like to see the feature (already present in most X window managers) to customize it.

As long as the feature isn't active on my parent's computer, I don't want support calls saying all the icons have vanished on my windows, where did they go?

[PurpleGurl]

Despiting I'm against plainly removing it like the OP suggested, I'm all for versatility. If they add a GUI tool to set how they want the title bar to behave, I'll second that, provided the default config is the actual de facto default from nowadays. The same way Esperanto was added to the language options, instead of just removing all the other languages and putting it by force, I'd like to see the feature (already present in most X window managers) to customize it.

Yes, it wold be nice to have the OP's idea as an option. I'd like my OS to be highly customizable. But I do use the restore button at times. There are times when you would like to have windows side by side, like if you must type something from an image, type in names of files, perhaps in a directory, etc.

This does give ideas. Why not a split desktop option, where you can cut the screen into 2 desktops? With wide screen monitors and all, it would be nice to have the option to split the explorer. Then you can have 2 windows open in full screen mode and both rather independent. Then you don;t have to keep changing active focus.

When it comes to copying file names from folders, maybe a more efficient way to do that would be an option to copy folder details to the clipboard.

Opening windows only as full screen is a feature I'd love to see when dealing with browsers. IE can be so annoying when it opens in a size less than full screen. It doesn't remember that you maximized it the last time you used it. If you have many windows open in IE, the one you close last is the settings which get remembered. So if the last you close is a popup or the rare screen you deliberately wanted smaller, then guess what? That is what size you will get next time for every new window.

There are many little features that could be added to the explorer. I guess the trick is to keep all the basics (with options to get rid of some for users who find them to be clutter) while adding the most useful/popular of the enhancements.

[mrugiero]

Despiting I'm against plainly removing it like the OP suggested, I'm all for versatility. If they add a GUI tool to set how they want the title bar to behave, I'll second that, provided the default config is the actual de facto default from nowadays. The same way Esperanto was added to the language options, instead of just removing all the other languages and putting it by force, I'd like to see the feature (already present in most X window managers) to customize it.

Yes, it wold be nice to have the OP's idea as an option. I'd like my OS to be highly customizable. But I do use the restore button at times. There are times when you would like to have windows side by side, like if you must type something from an image, type in names of files, perhaps in a directory, etc.

This does give ideas. Why not a split desktop option, where you can cut the screen into 2 desktops? With wide screen monitors and all, it would be nice to have the option to split the explorer. Then you can have 2 windows open in full screen mode and both rather independent. Then you don;t have to keep changing active focus.

When it comes to copying file names from folders, maybe a more efficient way to do that would be an option to copy folder details to the clipboard.

Opening windows only as full screen is a feature I'd love to see when dealing with browsers. IE can be so annoying when it opens in a size less than full screen. It doesn't remember that you maximized it the last time you used it. If you have many windows open in IE, the one you close last is the settings which get remembered. So if the last you close is a popup or the rare screen you deliberately wanted smaller, then guess what? That is what size you will get next time for every new window.

There are many little features that could be added to the explorer. I guess the trick is to keep all the basics (with options to get rid of some for users who find them to be clutter) while adding the most useful/popular of the enhancements.

I think there is a simpler option for the split desktop, tiling the windows. A fast way to tile them (like an optional added button for tiling either vertical or horizontal) would be ideal, IMO.

[Saibamen]

i come with this suggestion that could sound rare for you:

delete the button:
WHY?!?!?!?

The world is evolving, new options have arised...]

i still use the feature please don't remove it, and my family still use it.

[milon]

I think there is a simpler option for the split desktop, tiling the windows. A fast way to tile them (like an optional added button for tiling either vertical or horizontal) would be ideal, IMO.

Windows 7 sort of has this ability. Maybe ROS could too. Hold the Windows key and hit left or right to maximize it on that half of the screen. (Also note that up/down will maximize/restore the window just like the resize button.)

i still use the feature please don't remove it, and my family still use it.

Ditto.

[mrugiero]

I think there is a simpler option for the split desktop, tiling the windows. A fast way to tile them (like an optional added button for tiling either vertical or horizontal) would be ideal, IMO.

Windows 7 sort of has this ability. Maybe ROS could too. Hold the Windows key and hit left or right to maximize it on that half of the screen. (Also note that up/down will maximize/restore the window just like the resize button.)

IIRC, every Windows out there has that feature, but it's not widely advertised. I don't remember how to use it on Windows, a friend of mine showed it to me once, I'm not sure if it was on XP or in 7.

i still use the feature please don't remove it, and my family still use it.

Seconded.

[jonaspm]

but you only use it to change window´s size... it is not really needed

[SomeGuy]

but you only use it to change window´s size... it is not really needed

Hi Jonaspam. Perhaps you only do one thing at a time on your computer and run everything full screen (that is ok, many people do), but some of us do dozens of things at a time. For us, being able to easily manipulate the size and position of each application window is critical.

[BrentNewland]

Has everyone in this thread forgotten the second post in this topic, or did everyone ignore it?

It would be nice to be able to choose to have the buttons on the right or the left, and to choose not to show some of those buttons

Getting up in arms about this button when the first response was that this could be an option is foolish.

Saying that everyone should have to have these buttons and they shouldn't be optional is equally foolish.

So is saying that the button should be removed and not allowed in ReactOS (not even optionally). Foolish.

[fulea.stefan]

I want the Windows 3.x look. I'm nostalgic! Will someone code it in ReactOS for me? It's alright if it will be optional, I have no problem clicking a few mouse buttons to switch to it...