[ros-dev] More RBuild issues...

[Casper Hornstrup]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ros-dev-bounces at reactos.com [mailto:ros-dev-bounces at reactos.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ionescu
> Sent: 29. maj 2005 20:46
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] More RBuild issues...
> 
> Ge van Geldorp wrote:
> 
> >>From: Casper Hornstrup
> >>
> >>Rsym should strip the stabs symbols. What do you need more?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thinking about it, I believe the difference between the before-rbuild and
> >after-rbuild situation is that before, stabs symbols would be stripped (for
> >both DBG := 0 and 1) but rossym symbols (which make the symbolic stack
> >traceback possible) were only added for DBG := 1. Now, for both DBG := 0 and
> >1, stabs symbols are stripped but rossym symbols are added even for DBG :=
> >0. Personally I think this is a good thing, as it will allow testers to
> >report meaningfull stack traces.
> >
> >
> Testers shouldn't use DBG = 0 builds.... As I've said before...those
> builds should only be for releasing to the public.
> They require 64MB of memory to work properly in the first place, are
> much larger, slower, etc.
> 
> I know that Casper (and even myself) want bug reports to be sent with
> meaningful traces, but a 30MB+ memory/disk bloat is not the way to get
> that. As I've explained before, since we control the releases, I think
> it's much better for us to run addr2line. Casper says this will mean
> having hundreds of copies of the symbol files...but I don't see why. We
> only need one per release. Then Casper says what about users that
> compile their own versions. But I've always been told that users DON'T
> compile their own versions, that only "Developers or testers" do. Well,
> since I've come to agree with that, then it's clear that there isn't any
> issue with users compiling their own version of ReactOS. As for testers
> or developers, there's no point in using the release version, since by
> building from SVN you're not using a "release" anymore, you're using
> your own build, which has DBG = 1.
> 
> I hope we can find a compromise.

Why do I need to use DBG=1? If developers and testers use DBG=1, who will
test DBG=0?

People seem to not have a problem allocating 3-4 GB of disk space for their
Linux system. Why complain over 30MB? After 6 years of looking up symbols in
map files, I'm pretty tired of it and now ReactOS can translate the addresses
for me. Why would I want to run addr2line for every address? Why would I want
to force testers to look them up? Why wouldn't I want ReactOS to submit a
bug report containing a stack trace with translated symbols to a mailing list
when ReactOS has network capability? The rsym section can be NOLOAD so there
is no memory bloat.

Casper