[ros-dev] Bye bye

Thu Jan 19 23:25:06 CET 2006

Does this mean the ROS is going to die a violent death?
No hope for a real alternative to M$ Windoze?

I am really looking forward to Version # 1.0.0 of ROS in both x86 and PPC.

People we (you devs) need to stick togather. Become a team! People are
counting on YOU!

ROS-PPC + Open Workstation Computing platform. = Power to the People!

If you have to become 90% WinOS compatable then so be it! 90% is better than
0%

XP apps can be ported to ROS.

Maybe GvG and WD will come back if ROS went in this direction.
Port Linux GNU code if you have to. Lets get a new GUI and a Integrated
sound system.
Use a open file system not FAT. Write a translator for FAT.
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On 1/19/06, David Johnson <davidjohnson.johnson at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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>  On 1/19/06, Steven Edwards <winehacker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 1/19/06, Alex Ionescu <ionucu at videotron.ca> wrote:
> > > 1) Those magic sizes were calculated in my head and I didn't have time
> > > 2) This is not a matter of driver compatibility. The fast system call
> >
> > In regards to points 1 and 2 your explanation can be left up to the
> > other developers to decide. When Hartmut, Filip, Art, and every other
> > developer on irc/email says there is a problem I tend to believe them.
> > I think the kernel developers should decide if there are violations
> > and remove any cod that is found to be offending. I think that if it
> > was all implemented in the methods you described then no, its not as
> > bad a violation as its made out to be. However its still a issue.
> >
> > > 3) I find the idea of removing code that "Violates policy" ludicrous.
> > No
> > > one has the right to dermine if some piece of code violates policy or
> > > not, especially if the author writing it denies it. Only a judge or
> > > lawyer should be able to make that decision. Additionally, in this
> >
> > I guess we never should have reverted Jon Wilsons patches that were
> > copy/pasted from MSDN because they were just function prototypes and
> > not real code. No the same rules apply. What point is there in having
> > rules if we don't hold to them?
> >
> > > specific case, what could be done? The code is in SVN and even if
> > > rewritten it will 1) look the same, excpt "edx" would become "esi" and
> > > vice-versa 2) a judge would still argue that "hey, you had the
> > previous
> > > code in SVN for over a year, you've all been tainted and could've just
> > > as easily looked at it". Furthermore, such attitude might start
> > > devolving into a dangerous witchhunt. Don't like someone's code?
> > Report
> > > them and have it removed! This communist-era and fascist-era behaviour
> > > deeply scares me and reminds me of a country and regime which I fled.
> > I
> > > do not want to see it happen, because it would slowly kill and rip
> > apart
> > > this project.
> >
> > At the risk of pissing off another developer, I have to say it. Your
> > development methods and attitude have been doing that. Hartmut is
> > leaving because of code he feels is tainted by the methods you use.
> > Ge' spends less and less time working on ReactOS because he can't deal
> > with your methods or behavior. Blight would not have been so pissed
> > off about you breaking KDB if you had not fucked up the formatting at
> > the same time you "fixed" it so he could have at least followed the
> > code and tried to fix it or added a hack. He might not have even been
> > so pissed off had you given a damn and helped him fix it.
> >
> > > These monthly Alex-bashings are starting to tire me very much and
> > maybe
> > > it's time I took an offensive position instead of a defensive one. I
> > do
> > > not want to start naming names, but many of our developers have
> > already
> > > violated our policy in different ways. If you actively start enforcing
> >
> > > it, then it will be my duty as an active developer to enforce it as
> > > well, meaning that hiding any information I have concerning other
> > > developers' violations would be considered as complicity, so I would
> > be
> > > legally bound to report them. In other words, this would mean that the
> > > project would lose half of its developers.
> >
> > Now lets get down to it. Lets say even if you have not violated the
> > rules we agreed up and all of the developers are wrong about needing
> > to revert some of your patches. I do not take well to threats. I do
> > not appreciate it, nor does anyone else. I do not want to work with
> > you any longer on this project. If you want to make threats, I suggest
> > you take your ball and go play somewhere else.
> >
> > > I am sick of being treated as the black sheep and the "example". This
> > > stops here. I have always been put in the spotlight for almost any
> > > action I took, and I've always taken steps to repair it. But these
> > > public trials of guilt have passed a limit. Either start questionning
> > > everyone and treating every developer the same, or stop using me as a
> > tool.
> >
> > Stop doing things that drive developers away from this project. If you
> > want to try and destroy this project out of some childish revenge then
> > come out, make your accusations and be done with it, otherwise play by
> > the rules.
> >
> > I propose a vote on Hartmuts proposal depending on if he will stay
> > with the project
> >
> > Audit and rewrite code that is found to violate the IP Policy Doc
> > [X] Yes
> > [] No
> >
> > --
> > Steven Edwards - ReactOS and Wine developer
> >
> > "There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and
> > that is an idea whose time has come." - Victor Hugo
> >
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> >
>
> Audit and rewrite!
>
> I founded San Diego ROS Users Group. We are Alpha testing on Real
> hardware.
> If ROS becomes extinct we will become SD SkyOS UG.
>
> --
> David Johnson
> Voice Talent
> http://www.davefilms.us
> DaveFilms Digital Media - Audio [TM]
> Producer , Writer,
> Production Director/ Designer
>

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