[ros-dev] Audit

[James Tabor]

Wolves in sheep's clothing!

Ged wrote:
> James Tabor wrote:
>> Wine is the Pot calling the kettle BLACK! Bunch of RE coders using smoke and
>> mirrors when it comes to case testing! It's a easy out!
>>   
> 
> Can we please stop using our mailing list to bad mouth Wine, I do no 
> want to be tainted under the same brush.

I don't mean to. But if it is okay for wine'ies to do it, why the double standard?
They get their licks in every once in a while.

> Most of the ReactOS developers don't agree with your right wing view of 
> Wine, in fact many of us, myself included, have the oposite view.
> 
More left wing, non capitalist, non communist. More like when the colonies had
real freedom, no slavery to a monarch. It's an unique type of freedom let us say.

> Wine are a fanastic project from whom we owe a great deal.
> Just because they choose to do things differently from your idealistic 
> way doesn't mean it's bad or wrong. They have their own interests to 
> protect and quite frankly that has nothing to do with us.
> I agree with Aleksey, we must adopt their way of working in the hope of 
> rebuilding the bridges and additionally improving our credability within 
> the open source world. If this means offering ourselves to an external 
> audit, then so be it. We can't be a hobbiest project forever if we aim 
> to bring ReactOS to the public sector as a viable alternative to Windows.
> 
We will have credibility with out having to be like Codeweavers. ReactOS will
and is standing on it's own. I can not boot wine, I have to boot Linux to use
wine.

> ReactOS is getting to a stage now where we have to look at how the world 
> would best accept us as an entity. We need public support, we need 
> financial backing and we need to alter the project to make us more 
> appealing for such things. We should listen to Aleksey, I think he's 
> moving the project down the right path.
> 
We are moving in the right direction.

> Your continual barage against Wine is no different than we used to 
> recieve from Mike, the only difference being, Mike has moved on now.
> 
> Ged.
> 
Don't know about mike_m, he had his points too. In that betov kind of way.

The issue is:
SFLC is not our friend. Codeweavers was taken up to the top of the mountain and
shown all the wonders it could have. Codeweavers made a big mistake in falling
into the trap. Doing so, sucked up a nice project called Wine. We are reading
about it right now, some projects have given in. Now they are regretting it.

Has anyone stopped to think where did this SFLC come from? It's not FSF so
where do they get off setting up rules for us to follow when we had real good
ones from the start.  Just because Codeweavers excepted the fruit, it does
not mean we have to. We need to see SFLC comprehensive financial report too!

Two to three years from now, I will hear, he was right.

We are FSF/GNU/GPL not SFLC/Codeweavers/LGPL. Stay focus! Turn the infrared/RADAR
on to see through the smoke and glitter!
James