[ros-dev] Unable to use FreeLDR

Brian Palmer brianp at sginet.com
Tue Sep 21 19:37:03 UTC 2010


It seems there are some severe technical limitations to a PE FreeLoader.
Unless there are good reasons for it to remain a PE file (and I don't think
easier debugging is a good reason), I would like to see the PE changes to
FreeLoader reverted.

-----Original Message-----
From: ros-dev-bounces at reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-bounces at reactos.org] On
Behalf Of Ros Arm
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:53 AM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Unable to use FreeLDR

> Ros Arm wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > After the switch in 48124 to PE FreeLDR, I am unable to boot FreeLDR any
longer.
> >
> > I have tried official, as well as various unofficial freeldr.sys, none
worked.
> >
> > 47892 version works fine, 48124 does not.
> >
> > On a 512MB IDE disk, I got the "_" VGA cursor scrolling
endlessly/randomly on the screen, before even seeing "Loading FreeLDR..."
> >
> > With a 1GB SCSI disk, tested also with a 6GB IDE disk, it remains stuck
at "Loading FreeLDR...".
> >   
> Did you do a "make install" or did you install from bootcd?

I used to use an older bootcd, and then copy freeldr, which has always
worked for me.

> Did you reformat / repartition the disk?

I did, using the older bootcd.

> Did you install the VBR?

This was not an option.

Based on this, I thought, maybe a new bootcd is needed. I was unable to
build one previously due to the fact my build system seemed unsupported, but
I have fixed the issues.

I built a bootcd with the old FreeLDR, got the new option for MBR+VBR, etc,
everything works fine.

I then did an svn up to get the new FreeLDR and SetupLDR, did a full "clean"
+ "make clean", and build a new bootcd.

Now the VM freezes after "Press any key to boot from CD..." when I press a
key.

So it looks like something is really broken in the new "PE"
FreeLDR/SetupLDR.

-r

> 
> > This seems strange: "Now booting from fat partitions (looks like that's
what sysreg does) works again. It's safe under the condition that the
cluster size is at least 4352 bytes, which is true for harddisks of sizes
bigger than 272MB. Booting from smaller fat disks, like floppy breaks when
freeldr.sys gets fragmented, which should rarely happen."
> >   
> The FAT16 bootsector is only 512 byes. Too small, so it needs to load
> additional code, which is the fathelper code in freeldr.sys. The 1st
> bootsector doesn't handle fragmented files, so the fathelper code must
> be in the first cluster of freeldr.sys. This is true for disks > 272MB.
> 
> 
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