[ros-kernel] Re: WineConf update

Waldo Alvarez Cañizares wac at lab.matcom.uh.cu
Tue Feb 3 17:16:39 CET 2004


Hello Steven:
 
I think it's GREAT!!!
 
It is a very good Idea to get that code tested before reactos can walk by itself.
Probably it will call more users/developers from the Linux World too.
 
The wining ReactOS as Win4Lin rather than running Wineserver and WINE. Speed maybe. The Linux comunity is always chasing speed you can always see that as an excuse for the monolithic kernel, for the use of C instead of C++ to program it... In my opinion is a cumunity educated towards speed and that could be a good point. Bypassing the X-Server to draw things could give it good chances be a faster than Wine but maybe not. Aside from that I don't think there will be too much wining, compatibility probably will be the same for applications. But maybe attaching win32k.sys to the X-Server could be a win to load windows drivers and give an early video card support to Linux users buying new computers having video cards still unsuported by the X, or those that will never be because of being so closed by te manufacturer. If that is posible, I don't know, I know little about X but maybe some sort of user-kernel interface could be done for the X if drivers can't execute in usermode (ill video drivers doing direct I/O maybe). So maybe linux users can benefict too.
 
Ahh as a bonus ReactOS will get more known, wich is very important for the success of the project.
 
Best Regards
Waldo Alvarez

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From: ros-kernel-bounces at reactos.com on behalf of Steven Edwards
Sent: Mon 2/2/2004 5:14 PM
To: Vizzini; ros-kernel at reactos.com
Cc: wine-devel at winehq.com; jwhite at codeweavers.com
Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: WineConf update



Hi Guys,
--- Vizzini <vizzini at plasmic.com> wrote:
> There was a very interesting question brought up on Saturday morning
> by
> one of the Wine guys (Mike perhaps?) regarding running ReactOS inside
> Linux, like Win4Lin.  I was skeptical at first, but having slept on
> it a
> day or two, I think this is a really cool idea.  The proposal is that
> we
> adapt our own ntoskrnl.exe and hal.dll to run correctly in user mode,
> just like user mode linux does, and use them to run the rest of a
> native
> Windows XP system.  In other words, it replaces Win4Lin with free
> software, and it would be compatible with the current Windows OSes.
> Much investigating remains to be done, of course - I can't really
> even
> guess at the level of difficulty or time required at this point - but
> it
> is worth pursuing in my opinion.

I think its do-able. I am planning on discussing this with Mike and
Codeweavers guys more after I return from Vacation on the 8th. The real
question is what more do you get by running ReactOS as Win4Lin rather
than running Wineserver and WINE. Do we open up Win32k.sys for grahpics
drivers like Captive has done for Filesystem drivers?

Thanks
Steven



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