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Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby MugenFighter » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:14 pm

What are the possibilities for improvements for/additions to NTVDM and other Sub-Systems for the ReactOS project. I ask because I'm curious in ReactOS's future capabilities.
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby erkinalp » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:44 pm

ENIW: GNU/Linux binary format interpreter and related subsystems for ReactOS
ENIW Now in Windows
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby MugenFighter » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:00 pm

erkinalp wrote:ENIW: GNU/Linux binary format interpreter and related subsystems for ReactOS
ENIW Now in Windows

So, improved Web connective capabilities?
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby middings » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:36 am

ENIW = ENIW Nicely Inverts Wine :lol:

Seriously, the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) is a bit like WINE (Windows subsystem on Linux) but going the other way (Linux subsystem on Windows). So the ReactOS equivalent would have to be named ENIW.
Here is Microsoft's WSL FAQ.

(Edits: changed acronym to remove mention of Windows, added comment about WSL)
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby erkinalp » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:42 pm

MugenFighter wrote:So, improved Web connective capabilities?

ReactOS equivalent of WSL.
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby MugenFighter » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:06 pm

erkinalp wrote:
MugenFighter wrote:So, improved Web connective capabilities?

ReactOS equivalent of WSL.

Sorry, I just googled it.
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby MugenFighter » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:09 pm

erkinalp wrote:ENIW: GNU/Linux binary format interpreter and related subsystems for ReactOS
ENIW Now in Windows

What about a Win16 subsystem? Or would that just be part of the NTVDM subsystem?

Edit: If ENIW gets finished, would it work with Windows XP?
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby erkinalp » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:53 pm

It may or may not. Will not if it would rely on a ReactOS specific extension.
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby sdever » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:55 pm

@MugenFighter: yes, WOW16 is related to NTVDM (with a bunch of wowexec.exe/wow32.dll stuff under Windows), but seems nobody is working on it yet (however if someone if willing to implement it, we accept patches :D)
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby MugenFighter » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:49 pm

sdever wrote:@MugenFighter: yes, WOW16 is related to NTVDM (with a bunch of wowexec.exe/wow32.dll stuff under Windows), but seems nobody is working on it yet (however if someone if willing to implement it, we accept patches :D)

I can't implement it, but if anyone is willing to, here is some info on a Win16 emulator for Win64 some guy is working on:
https://hackernoon.com/win3mu-part-1-why-im-writing-a-16-bit-windows-emulator-2eae946c935d#.co7if8ch7

It might be useful info.
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby milon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:15 pm

That's a great find, but it looks like he disappeared 5 or 6 months ago. :(
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Re: Possibilities For NTVDM and other Sub-Systems

Postby erkinalp » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:03 am

Idea for ENIW's architecture:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzXRZO3a-32ubmpvczNPZ3p6Y3M
ENIW can directly use Linux instead of reverse engineering them because both ReactOS and Linux are under GPLv2. This will be a competitive advantage until Microsoft open sources Windows under GPLv2. Waiting for comments.
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