Third party criticism to ReactOS project

[Quim]

http://www.kernelmode.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5302

Did ReactOS devs read this?
Could this be a reflection point to really develop ReactOS well once for all?

[oldman]

That topic with that link in got removed, so I suggest this also should be removed.

[Quim]

That topic with that link in got removed, so I suggest this also should be removed.

So why censored it?
Is so rude the criticism that make the people of this post? Is so offensive?

Could we just calm down and analyze part by part of the article, and show what`s wrong and what`s true about, specially the technical details?

What about the technical details described?

[EmuandCo]

It was removed due to the fact it originated from a spam post. Feel free to handle this as you want. We handle it in a way or another too.

[ThFabba]

There's no need to respond to that kind of thing, it seems doubtful the author would be convinced of anything (and unclear what use it would be to us to try). It's also generally a discouraged practice to act defensively toward (at least somewhat) valid criticism.

What we can do is fix the bugs that were mentioned... and I believe that has happened.

[dizt3mp3r]

The reason why I suggested we close it the original thread is that the whole thing is deeply unhealthy. I think that chap is a very dangerous person to engage with and I strongly think we ought to disassociate ourselves from the whole unhealthy debate. You cannot win with someone like that and he is likely to seek out and damage ReactOS further. He has the capability and the means.

Let us set a precedent of being able to stand aloof from slanging matches like this. After all, what is any response going to achieve? You will never convince that sort of person.

I suggest we refrain from responding or giving it any time on this forum. I'd further suggest we take it offline to Mattermost, have the chat there and then delete this thread too.

[ThFabba]

Deleting seems excessive. But I agree there's not much left to say on the subject.

[dizt3mp3r]

That chap wants to stir it and I think we need to defuse.

[EmuandCo]

Take him his base by fixing bugs as it was done all the time in the past, too. As he even confirmed, bugs vanish from time to time (Cpt. Obvious?). Of course there are enough left to fix, but even if these are fixed he will find another thing to pee onto. I confirm that the whole discussion is a) useless and b) dangerous.
I was close to lock this thing here today morning already after I realized that he really approved my post over there mainly to accuse me to be the evul german ip without any proof and being a fanboy (which might be true though ^^). And not just that. He said that he disapproved any other fanboy's posts, too. So he does not allow ANYONE to have another opinion and a normal discussion over there! We call that whole bunch of postings a case of "Rufmord" over here and ppl can be sued quite effectively when doing so. But I don't care. Whoever believes a guy not giving any argument for his claims TWICE is not to be trusted! This whole thing cannot be won, just be ignored. There are sooo many things I would like to fire back at him... ("I know too much about your project" - Orly?! What do you know to call us liars?! I already asked for proof and nothing shows up except this?! WOW! // "I just went down to your level" - What level?! Who pissed on our feet? I did NOT!), but... not with the risk this whole thing includes. Crazy guys tend to do crazy things... ^^ And this guy is on a craziness level OVER 9000!!!
So... if noone has to add anything else, I'd like to lock this thing down. Objections?

EDIT: If anyone ever dares to accuse me of moderator rights abusal again, I will send him over there to understand what he claimed to be the case in here ^^

[PurpleGurl]

I'm with both Daniel and Diz on this. This does seem to be a dangerous sort of troll, and these are the kind who will pull you into a sewer and are always better at navigating the sewer. These are the ones for whom the old US saying "Walk softly and carry a big stick" may apply. I'd let legal counsel look into this, but outside that, I wouldn't engage. He has yet to give proof for his allegations which seem very baseless to me. There are some parts that can only be done one way. He claims we turned it to garbage to hide being IP thieves, when that was never the issue. No, I see it as a matter of changing languages and improving coding practices. I just don't know what his beef is.

[karlexceed]

This guy seems like a jerk. And aside from legitimate bugs, the proof he offers to back up his other claims mostly comes down to, "trust me, I know these things."

Since he's not interested in any discussion, I'm not either. Don't give him the web traffic.

[ctasan]

Just we fix his bugs at a time and never look behind.

[dizt3mp3r]

mainly to accuse me to be the evul german

Who would ever accuse you of that!

EDIT: If anyone ever dares to accuse me of moderator rights abusal again, I will send him over there to understand what he claimed to be the case in here ^^

Damn good reference that...

PS. Feel free to lock!

[PurpleGurl]

And what do you think about the Rocall tool? And is it okay to use tools built by those who are "dirty?" At least if you never examine the source?

[binarymaster]

And what do you think about the Rocall tool?

All tools are useful for us.

And is it okay to use tools built by those who are "dirty?" At least if you never examine the source?

I don't see any major problem here.