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In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:28 am
by erkinalp
What do you think will happen in case a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft due to Microsoft being a monopolistic position in system software industry? Do we have any plans for;
a) an anti-competition ruling against Microsoft leading to split of Windows away from Microsoft by means a company split
b) an anti-competition ruling against Microsoft leading to forced open-sourcing of Windows as a public domain and MS losing all exclusive rights to it
?
A variation of latter is already being discussed on a separate topic, such that what will happen if or whether MS voluntarily open-sources Windows.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:03 pm
by learn_more
What about the event that there is a massive flooding around the globe and everyone loses their code?

Do we have any plans for a backup?

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:09 pm
by erkinalp
response to a) Mandatory updates on Windows 10, and Windows taken away from Microsoft without notice, implies Windows will fail contacting its update server and deactivate. A rapid takeover is therefore necessary.
This can be likened to a city gets nuked and only a handful of people manage to survive in a bunker, then trying to restore city life.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:16 pm
by mrmajik45
learn_more wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:03 pm
Do we have any plans for a backup?
People who keep their ReactOS isos. (Me)

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:12 pm
by Ancient
erkinalp wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:28 am
What do you think will happen in case a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft due to Microsoft being a monopolistic position in system software industry? Do we have any plans for;
Won't happen. POSIX systems compete well with Windows. Microsoft does not have an OS monopoly. Linux, Android, MacOS all compete quite well against Windows, as do other POSIX systems more removed from the desktop.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:53 pm
by erkinalp
No. Two POSIX OSs occupy top three. MacOS is #2 and Ubuntu is #3 in desktop and desktop/server mixed OS use stats.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:11 pm
by wdstudios
erkinalp wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:09 pm
response to a) Mandatory updates on Windows 10, and Windows taken away from Microsoft without notice, implies Windows will fail contacting its update server and deactivate. A rapid takeover is therefore necessary.
Ummm what?

Win10 will commit sudoku if it doesn't have internet access?

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 pm
by hbelusca
If windows goes away, it's all the *nixes / POSIX that's now in monopolistic position, so they must also go away.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:36 am
by wdstudios
hbelusca wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 pm
If windows goes away, it's all the *nixes / POSIX that's now in monopolistic position, so they must also go away.
Except that no one company owns the rights to all of that.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:08 pm
by hbelusca
wdstudios wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:36 am
hbelusca wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:05 pm
If windows goes away, it's all the *nixes / POSIX that's now in monopolistic position, so they must also go away.
Except that no one company owns the rights to all of that.
Which means the situation would be much worse.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:16 am
by wdstudios
hbelusca wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:08 pm
Which means the situation would be much worse.
HOW? A monopoly is when one COMPANY controls a market. It's NOT the dominance of a particular platform or set of standards.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:09 am
by erkinalp
Competition enforcement treats monopolies, trusts and cartels similarly. Either a split or a teardown.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:09 pm
by shunesburg
wdstudios wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:16 am
hbelusca wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:08 pm
Which means the situation would be much worse.
HOW? A monopoly is when one COMPANY controls a market. It's NOT the dominance of a particular platform or set of standards.
By definition, monopoly is not only for company, monopoly mean : "The domination state on a market or a the whole control on everything in a domain."

Yes I know I used a pleonasm (for "whole" and "everything").

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:35 pm
by wdstudios
shunesburg wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:09 pm
By definition, monopoly is not only for company, monopoly mean : "The domination state on a market or a the whole control on everything in a domain."

Yes I know I used a pleonasm (for "whole" and "everything").
Wrong. A monopoly is when there is only one seller/vendor in a market. A monopsony is when there is only one buyer, client, or user.

Re: In the event a trade regulator takes Windows away from Microsoft

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:58 pm
by shunesburg
wdstudios wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:35 pm
shunesburg wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:09 pm
By definition, monopoly is not only for company, monopoly mean : "The domination state on a market or a the whole control on everything in a domain."

Yes I know I used a pleonasm (for "whole" and "everything").
Wrong. A monopoly is when there is only one seller/vendor in a market. A monopsony is when there is only one buyer, client, or user.
Yes but I didn't say the opposite. I just said it's not only for market/company, but also for type of things or for a domain.

Example: The LCD screen have the monopoly of the TV screen. (LCD is not a company or brand or market)