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Is ReactOS prone to any know viruses? Has anyone looked into this?
If so, are there any viruses protection applications know to work on ReactOS?
If so, are there any viruses protection applications know to work on ReactOS?
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Viruses (technically Trojans) are generally not spread by OS problems (with the exception of defaulting to Admin in WinXP for user accounts). Viruses (Trojans) generally are spread through being downloaded and opened by the user. Worms though spread using OS vulnerabilities.
Though since ROS won't have IE, viruses, worms, spyware, adware, and malware won't be close to as big of a problems as on windows.
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Though since ROS won't have IE, viruses, worms, spyware, adware, and malware won't be close to as big of a problems as on windows.
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Anyone care to test? The best I can do is download some P2P wermes and try them, but they'll probably all work, considering all they do is stick themselves in startup, and make a 1000 copies in likely directories.
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PS. Who'se waiting for Secunia to open a file for ReactOS?!
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PS. Who'se waiting for Secunia to open a file for ReactOS?!
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I've got a lot of viruses in the quarantine-dir of AntiVir, however I don't really want to test themuniQ wrote:Anyone care to test? The best I can do is download some P2P wermes and try them, but they'll probably all work, considering all they do is stick themselves in startup, and make a 1000 copies in likely directories.
-Q
PS. Who'se waiting for Secunia to open a file for ReactOS?!
(just joking)Should I send them to you via e-mail?
Maybe I try some of them tomorrow, on winNT they didn't do much so I think on ReactOS there's not gonna to happen much, too
It's not worth your mail servers reputationgasmann wrote:(just joking)Should I send them to you via e-mail?
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ClamAV
Just for information purposes:
ClamAV installed without any problems at all on real hardware.
None of the executibles would run after installation.
ClamAV installed without any problems at all on real hardware.
None of the executibles would run after installation.
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One of the greatest benefits of open source is that viruses can be detected and easily patched. Also, as SirTalon said, lack of IE means much less spyware and stuff automatically downloading to your computer.
Also, ReactOS has it's own sockets layer (which is the main cause of 99% of all important windows viruses, including Blaster and SoBig.F) so patching against viruses would not be as hard or as complicated as windows.
Also, ReactOS has it's own sockets layer (which is the main cause of 99% of all important windows viruses, including Blaster and SoBig.F) so patching against viruses would not be as hard or as complicated as windows.
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First off, viruses and torjans are 2 completly seperate things.
Secondly, the majority of viri which exploit holes in the Windows OS will not in turn be able to exploit ROS, unless coincidentally, we are open to the same flaw.
When ROS becomes mainstream, and if it becomes as big as we hope, it is probable that new viri will be developed to exploit vunerabilities in the OS. As ROS is built upon the same rules as NT, the developers can only do so much to prevent this. Tightening up the security in ROS to better that of Windows will more than likely break compatability.
Our best bet is to implement things like, switching all services off as default, default user being from an unpriviledged group (instead of admin as MS do), incorporating a default firewall, etc.
I have no doubt that ROS can be more secure than Windows, as we can bypass some the bad practices incorporated into Windows ........ however it will take time.
Secondly, the majority of viri which exploit holes in the Windows OS will not in turn be able to exploit ROS, unless coincidentally, we are open to the same flaw.
When ROS becomes mainstream, and if it becomes as big as we hope, it is probable that new viri will be developed to exploit vunerabilities in the OS. As ROS is built upon the same rules as NT, the developers can only do so much to prevent this. Tightening up the security in ROS to better that of Windows will more than likely break compatability.
Our best bet is to implement things like, switching all services off as default, default user being from an unpriviledged group (instead of admin as MS do), incorporating a default firewall, etc.
I have no doubt that ROS can be more secure than Windows, as we can bypass some the bad practices incorporated into Windows ........ however it will take time.
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The general viruses out there that spread all over the place (like MyDoom) are (using the current paradigm) are nearly impossible to prevent for exactly the reason mentioned (they don't use any security holes, and rely 100% on 'lusers'). The only things that the ROS developers can do is set better defaults (MS seemed to pick the worst possible defaults for XP...), like by default NO ports should be opened (things like SAMBA could be activated when the first user wants to share files, or could be over ridden system wide and disabled completely), also having a MUCH better firewall than what comes with windows, a firewall more like ZoneAlarm that operates on an application by application basis (even can prevent other apps from calling some other app to do the work for it). A firewall similar to ZoneAlarm (probably would have to be smarter than it for the users that don't want to have to learn ANYTHING) would be an excellent first line of defense against almost all viruses, Trojans, and worms.A part of the viruses of the world *must* run under ReactOS because they dont use any secruity hole. Only worms should nothing wor they use all the time secruity holes!
Having excellent security out of the box is going to be something VERY hard to accomplish because of win32's legacy support.
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