AmineKhaldi wrote: Webunny wrote:
That said, now that you said you are a student of software engineering - which they couldn't know in front, I presume - and you want to help with ROS, things change a bit. If that is the context in which you want to get it, I guess one could say it's sort of a minimum test. I mean, if you can't figure out how to search for the GetVersion with the link hbelusca has given you (there is a search box on there), I'm sorry to say that your skills (as a software engineering student) are subpar, and I doubt the ROS devs would let you anywhere near the code. In fact, they still might not. They're pretty...well, elitist is maybe a wrong word, but certainly 'stringent' about the capabilities of a coder, just take a look here: https://reactos.org/node/785
Let's keep things accurate please, without misinterpretations and false information:
* There is nothing "elitist" and "stringent" about making sure the community's funds are spent *very* wisely, and the *jobs* section reflects that. It has nothing to do with normal contributions, at all, and it says so clearly: "Contracted full time, part time, and internship level positions are all available".
* You just posted a *jobs* link to a *newcomer* and painted a false impression to him about our code acceptance. We accept patches, from anyone, regardless of whether they are even developers or not. We do our best to review and commit the patches that come in, through our JIRA or even the developers mailing list.
* For participation in general, we have https://reactos.org/participation
and it sends the exact opposite message to what you tried to give this newcomer. Please try to think before unintentionally harming more than you help.
* Finally, I agree with Z98 and hbelusca. coryhenrique, as a student in software engineering, please consider searching for that string (hint: greping) through http://git.reactos.org/?p=reactos.git;a=summary
These are 3 hints combined: The fact that you can search for the string (Z98), the fact that you can do so through http://git.reactos.org/?p=reactos.git;a=summary
(hbelusca) and finally, the fact that the term to look for, there, is grep (me) so have fun and report back to us
(of regulations, requirements, or conditions) strict, precise, and exacting.
That's exactly what it is. I don't know why you keep refuting things I say, while I use the exact dictionary meaning of the word, and not some personal interpretation. (Though, granted, what is to be considered stringent IS interpretation, but that doesn't make my interpretation less valid than yours).
Nobody was talking about not being able to give patches, btw, it was in the assumption that the fact that none simply gave the NT number was indicative of it being a test. True, it could also be because the devs themselves don't know about it, or because they do not have the time to tell him. Both of the latter options are unlikely, since, of devs one might presume they DO know this, and if it's because they don't have time, then making a longer post than is necessary to just say it, makes no sense neither. I note, btw, that you too, did not simply gave the answer.
Who is misrepresenting what, one may wonder. Did I say patches couldn't be put in by anyone? No. Did I say the funds shouldn't be spend wisely? No. So who is doing the interpretation, here, and what is the relevance of the 'counterarguments' you gave? In as far as someone would want to help out as an software engineer student - which one might reasonably presume lies ABOVE a simple report of a Jira bug which everyone can do, but more likely would involve the code itself, he WOULD have to be able to show he can handle it, true or not? That's exactly what I meant by 'won't let you anywhere near the code' (one would be hard-pressed to see in this a token that ordinary patches can't be *presented* through jira). If this is not the case, and anyone can start fumbling with the code, I'm hereby asking access to directly being able to make changes to the code. I'm no software engineer, but apparently one wouldn't need to demonstrate any aptitude on forehand, then. And certainly not if I'm not going for the paid job, apparently.
Is this closer to the truth? Of course not! You know as well as I, that no-one just arriving on the spot can meddle with the main-branche code just like that. Before he's allowed to do that, he has to show he knows his stuff. Right or wrong? Hence, the 'stringent', aka, exact and precise conditions. There is nothing pejorative about the term 'stringent', btw. Some things need to be stringent. It should have been obvious to you, that when I speak of 'helping ROS', in the context of software engineering, it was pertaining to the code, not some simple bug-filing on Jira. But apparently not. I hereby edit my former post and make it 'to help with ROS coding'. Satisfied? Or can't I still not say the bar is pretty high for that?
In fact, in your last sentence, you indicate exactly that, that you expect '(as) a software engineer student' to be able to do a search on his own. You don't seem to expect this from an ordinary user. Thus, the bar is more raised for him because one is expecting more of someone like that too. And if he's ever going to offer his help with the code - whether it's for a paid job or voluntary, I'm pretty sure demands and requirements will go up even more.