Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

jwalsh at bigpond.net.au jwalsh at bigpond.net.au
Wed Oct 26 08:30:48 CEST 2005


Sorry Richard I am not strictly correct, the concept was around long before Apple.
However Apple is credited with popularlising it. 
I know I first leaned of hypercard, hypertalk and hypertext from Apple sources. 
Next time I will use the word "legacy".
As for the connection, to http and html, I got that too from the  source below.
If you feel strongly enough about it you are able to change the material in the Wikipedia. Of course I still may have read it incorrectly.
They only require that the material be well researched and the changes made with professional skill.
You are entitled to question my sources Richard.
By so doing you improve this list

Cheers and rosuccess

Justin


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard

HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) is the primary method used to convey information on the World Wide Web. The original purpose was to provide a way to publish and receive HTML pages.


In August 1987, Apple Computer revealed its HyperCard application for its Macintosh line of computers at the MacWorld convention in Boston. HyperCard was an immediate hit and helped to popularize the concept of hypertext with the general public (although as Jakob Nielsen later pointed out, it was technically a hypermedia system because its hyperlinks originated only from regions on the screen). The first hypertext-specific academic conference also took place that year.

Legacy

HyperCard is one of the first products that made use of and popularized the hypertext concept to a large popular base of users.

Jakob Nielsen has pointed out that HyperCard was really only a hypermedia program since its links started from regions on a card, not text objects; actual HTML-style text hyperlinks were possible in later versions, but were awkward to implement and seldom used.

HyperCard saw a loss in popularity with the growth of the World Wide Web, since the Web could handle and deliver data in much the same way as HyperCard without being limited to files on your hard disk. Interestingly, HyperCard had a significant impact on the web as it inspired the creation of both HTTP itself and JavaScript (through its influence on Tim Berners-Lee's colleague Robert Cailliau).
---- Richard Campbell <eek2121 at comcast.net> wrote: 
> FYI, Hypercard and it's programming language have nothing to do with 
> HTTP, nor HTML or anything else.  It was completely different.  
> Hypercard 1.0/hypertext was the first language i was really interested 
> in (I liked Tandy BASIC, however the machine died.  I grew up using a 
> Tandy CoCo 2.)
> 
> jwalsh at bigpond.net.au wrote:
> 
> >I don't quite understand what you mean here Alex: 
> >  
> >
> >>Jobs' failed OS ???? Sounds interesting though.
> >>    
> >>
> >And as for:
> >  
> >
> >>QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of 
> >>the Internet? Perhaps you might expand on that one??
> >>    
> >>
> >I was refering to the "HT" in "HTTP"
> >And  "backbone was a poor choice of words.
> >I'm sure even sure whether the internet has one.
> >
> >Cheers and rosuccess
> >Justin
> >
> >
> >---- Alex Ionescu <ionucu at videotron.ca> wrote: 
> >  
> >
> >>jwalsh at bigpond.net.au wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Put them both together you get NeXT, for Jobs's Apple HyperText and HyperCard
> >>>Which today is the backbone of the Internet.
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Jobs' failed OS and QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of 
> >>the Internet?
> >>I thought Al Gore was the man behind it!
> >>
> >>Best Regards,
> >>Alex Ionescu
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